New York Times still on the story - honest rivals

The News Corporation’s Wall Street Journal has played it straight and acquitted itself nicely in covering its British siblings. But there are yet risks on this side of the ocean. Before he became head of The Journal, Les Hinton was chairman of News International, Mr. Murdoch’s British newspaper arm, and twice testified before Parliament that the company had conducted an internal investigation into the phone-hacking incidents.

In his second appearance before Parliament, he said the company had gone to “extraordinary lengths” to make certain the incidents had been confined to Clive Goodman, who was then the Royals reporter for The News of the World. That did not turn out to be the case.

New York Times still on the story - honest rivals

The News Corporation’s Wall Street Journal has played it straight and acquitted itself nicely in covering its British siblings. But there are yet risks on this side of the ocean. Before he became head of The Journal, Les Hinton was chairman of News International, Mr. Murdoch’s British newspaper arm, and twice testified before Parliament that the company had conducted an internal investigation into the phone-hacking incidents.

In his second appearance before Parliament, he said the company had gone to “extraordinary lengths” to make certain the incidents had been confined to Clive Goodman, who was then the Royals reporter for The News of the World. That did not turn out to be the case.

#ece11 #cms7 network learning and social media hype, questions for Naples @francesbell

Messing about with Twitter I can't find much new from #cms7 but have found more from Salford. Actually it was already there and I take a while to catch up. So probably more from Naples later.

Keynote from Alec Couros claims that there is "hype" about social media. Don't know what was actually said but is the critique / network learning role just to look on the dark side? Is implementation always to be avoided?

http://www.ece.salford.ac.uk/?s=the-programme

By the way Salford tweetpics include an actual Dalek. Media City looks like being quite different to some other university sites. I don't see how some sort of practice can be avoided in that space.

Another question is how CMS is seen in Europe now it is moving out of the UK. My impression is that quality ideas are better supported in EU funded research than most UK work so far. Is there any comment on this during #cms7 ?

Sorry if this is too short and rude. there may be a longer balanced text sometime later.

ps sorry for earlier typo on #ece11

Roy Greenslade and conversation about print starting round about now

Recently I have been in "hello spiders" mode, just sketching words as simple text without getting into where and when. But the Murdoch crisis is moving fast enough to take notice of dates and times. I think the perception of print has changed with the closure of a newspaper seen as just part of a move around television.

Yesterday the printed Guardian Media had a front page story by Roy Greenslade -

Rupert Murdoch's Sunday tabloid lost the plot, but that shouldn't stop a red-top press revival

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/10/news-of-the-world-not-the-end-of-the-story

Most of the content is about the classic history of the People. Quite right too, such history should be celebrated and there are still many Guardian readers who would like to hear it all again. But I think the Guardian could have also covered the background of MySpace or something like that. Can newspaper organisations cope with social media? Do the shareholders in the USA notice such things?

Then I woke up in the middle of the night and turned on the World Service. This usually helps me to get back to sleep but I think it was Roy Greenslade again so I became alert enough to take some notes. Something like - for 25 years tabloid newspapers have been going out of fashion, print newspapers at both ends of the market are going out of fashion fast, people already get their news on the screen, there could be closure or sale of other newspapers.

Maybe something happened between writing in print for the Guardian and speaking on radio for the BBC. But I do sometimes think the print version of the Guardian is intended for people who read print. I don't see why it can't be in print and also quite sensible. Jeff Jarvis manages a coherent article when offered the space.

Apparently the Guardian will redesign the print version later this year. I hope this will be explained to the audience.

Conversations about the role of print continue. Dates may not matter very much, various views can be found over the 25 years or so.

Television and the internet could be the next phase. Do we need to pay for TV when we could talk to each other over web video? Answers vary depending on energy levels and the time of day.

 

introducing will789gb re #cms7 with some questions

#cms7 has started to trend on Twitter

so this post is to start again with an intro and some questions

I fist came across CMS when working as a quality manager and trying to study how learning might happen inside a quality system

Making Quality Critical mnakes it clear that quality is always neoliberal rhetoric so just have nothing to do with it

ok this is just a blog in note form, could expand on request.

so is there anything in Naples that a working manager could a) understand b)implement?

Social media. As memory serves this came up in a California hotel but I can't find much through Twitter on what the content is.

Is it part of CMS7 to reach a public with some ideas? If so, where to find this?

digital media stream has got a Facebook call for papers but not much there recently. will now close to check, maybe more later

my guess, if social media, elearning etc then some sort of system will be involved so quality may be worth a look

Daily Beast puts Murdoch in context, USA media have the history on file

Tina Brown blog, sometimes it seems to me ok just to quote


It doesn't look good for Murdoch. He may decide to push the pause button on his bid and regroup. But those who are betting he will be found unfit to take sole control of such an important segment of British media in addition to all of his other powerful holdings should not forget how he acquired his current stake in BSkyB after he suffered a reverse. He was one of seven bidders for the license from the government in 1990. He lost because the law said no national newspaper could own more than 20 percent of a TV network. Did he give up? Uh, no. He started beaming TV into British homes from his own Luxembourg-based pan-European satellite service. Did the government act? Uh, no. Murdoch had a nice private chat with Margaret Thatcher. Two days later, the hapless home secretary, David Waddington, got up in the House of Commons to say that while, yes, Murdoch might have technically broken the law, that was OK because it was a commercial matter unworthy of official concern.

Newsweek shows interest in UK print journalism - blog on Diana and Murdoch press phone hacks still not much linked to

http://www.newsweek.com/2011/07/10/murdoch-s-watergate.html

An email from the Daily Beast links me to Newsweek and an article by Carl Bernstein. Whatever Emily Bell thinks, there is a benefit in a print publication working with a website. There may not be as much attention in the USA for UK print journalism as UK print journalists would expect. But Newsweek in print should reach a wider audience.

I still think the blog about Princess Diana will get more attention eventually. It may be a long time ago but the official version that some non journalists happened to come by a tape of a phone conversation is worth some consideration given new information..

Bernstein mentions the Washington Post and New York Times and the Murdoch history of strong competition. The USA media will cover the Murdoch story eventually and could be as complete a source as any. So far the UK mentions for the blog about Diana and phone hacks seem to be zero.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/09/05/news-of-the-world-scandal-did-murdochs-hacks-bug-dianas-phone.html

hello spiders print shows somewhere this year #hellospiders

this is another hello spiders, working with links that may be anywhere and with no specific time. I have already posted about Cross Media Live, that was to be in London this year and is now for next year. there was a recent announcement of a Digital IPEX in Abu Dhabi. My guess is this will include cross media. In Japan there will be IGAS, part of the drupa- IPEX- Chicago sequence.

www.ipexsouthasia.com

www.igas-tokyo.jp/ -

http://www.ipex.org/

The South Asia event shows attendance by Adobe but my previous IPEX stories mentioned that Adobe seem to be stopping attendance at print shows

http://english.ohmynews.com/ArticleView/article_sangview.asp?menu=c10400&no=386098&rel_no=1

another story on video

http://english.ohmynews.com/ArticleView/article_sangview.asp?menu=c10400&no=386094&rel_no=1

http://english.ohmynews.com/ArticleView/article_sangview.asp?menu=c10400&no=386092&rel_no=1

unfortunately OhmyNews stopped updating the English site just as these IPEX 2010 reports were loaded. So they are not well known. I may be living in the past but still ahead of waiting to 2012 to talk about cross media.

So this is a good hello spiders sort of topic. Hard news from IGAS, India and Abu Dhabi linked to memory from IPEX for a new mix.

There could well be Adobe people at an IPEX in India. "Classic" Postscript has been outsourced from California, not sure how the marketing budgets work out. Someone in India may have their own ideas. spiders, please come back with a suitable link


hello spiders - cms7 critique quality the cloud experimentality models #hellospiders

I am going back to hello spiders, diagrams of words that form patterns as search results or connections

except that they are from different times and places, spiders do not care about such things unless otherwise specified

CMS7 is looking good from the PDF available, but I don't think there is much social media around it.

Previously Experimentality last year the session I was at had a critique take on the Cloud and ways to work from models of online scenarios. I am interested in how this develops but can't find much. The Cloud has dangers but could be useful.

http://criticalmanagement.org/content/cms7naples-would-be-twitter-tag

can't find much on this site re CMS7 , I think it started after a California meeting on Web 2. Maybe the spiders will find this again. But the site is not working as Web 2. Almost nothing happens. there is a Facebook Critical Management site but nothing so far on CMS7 as far as I can find

my interest still quality systems and how people learn from them or not. CMS view still everything about quality is horrible , but I try to review this every so often

http://www.lancs.ac.uk/experimentality/event/international-conference-experimental-society

15 year time warp for Digital Printer, my future is in the archive #a-pdf-a

Digital Printer has arrived as hard copy and I have found some of the content also online.

Bill Holmes, HP - ‘But this is the same message that we’ve had for 15 years, the need to be proactive etc. What matters is the capability of the sales force to get it over. There’s a disconnect, even if the print shop owner gets it, that the sales force may not.’

http://www.paperandprint.com/cgi-bin/whitmar/news_all.pl?itemstyle=template;mag=dp;show=current;type=articles;nextrecs=5;maxrecs=1

This is from a round table discussion. Variable print is still needing promotion it seems.

In the news section there is not much comment on Cross Media Live, just the dates and the claims. I think that print may have to move faster to stay in the mix with social media. The round table seems to look at social media as just for a younger audience. What the timescale is I am not sure. But talk around Cross Media needs to continue.

Magazines from the past fifteen years or so are relevant. Especially those about print. They rarely suggest there is any rush, but the issues have been explored.

#a-pdf-a is about another PDF archive. Scans may already have been done. Later posts will identify some of the titles and check for existing links.


Google Blog Search finds CMS7 #cms7naples

I have found a few links through Google blogsearch but not as much as I was expecting.

http://brieflyspeakingbiz.wordpress.com/2011/05/01/sheridan-professor-to-present-paper-critical-of-ban-on-religous-face-coverings-at-cms-2011-in-naples/

Sheridan professor to present paper critical of ban on religous face coverings at CMS 2011 in Naples

In this paper, the authors will explore the discursive nature and implications of Western moves to ban the niqab from public engagement. They also explore the issues raised for feminist organizational analyses in the face of difficult cross-cultural engagement.

It is the first time that the bi-annual CMS Conference will be held outside of the UK. This may be interpreted as a sign of the progressive diffusion of this branch of management theory, and in particular, the interest which is also emerging in Italy.  The 7th International CMS Conference aims to explore established social practices and institutional arrangements in new and often radical ways, inviting contributions from a global constituency of critical scholars, practitioners, students and other interested parties.


I am not sure if #cms7naples will work on Twitter. Maybe something else will turn up. cms7 finds other things as well.

There are now lots of papers to download if you find proceeedings. So there could be a lot of social media links and comments. Previously there was a discussion about Web 2 etc in a California hotel. However most of the content takes a traditional form, PDF designed for print. Still works well, but other formats could support some interest.

I have been aware of CMS through conferences about Management Theory at Work and the IAS at Lancaster. This CMS conference could show a context of what academics are interested in without having a project that appears to link to an outside concern. More later when I look at some of the papers. Any links to short format intros welcome.

http://www.organizzazione.unina.it/cms7/

Impact and schools in South Korea

I have been guided to a page about "Impact"

http://www.hefce.ac.uk/research/ref/pubs/2011/01_11/

so may follow better some of the views from CMS7.

Meanwhile there is news from South Korea. They plan to replace print in schools by 2015.

I can't find the research this is based on. But the government there has a record of reaching targets pretty much on schedule.

The UK HE debate around e-learning seems to me to be  mostly about the difficulties, the association with managerialism and demands of quality procedures etc.

I will try to find the forms of "impact" from UK research but as an event the Korean decision is clear enough to make some comparisons about time lines.

http://www.mediabistro.com/ebooknewser/south-korea-to-adopt-digital-textbooks-by-2015_b13119

CMS7 proceedings appear , is this "impact" ?

The Critical Management conference has already posted some papers in proceedings

http://www.organizzazione.unina.it/cms7/

I have started to look at some. Still a fortnight or so to go and I can't find much else. there is no Twitter feed or blog spinoff that pops up easily.

About ten years ago I was at a Management Theory at Work conference that fell apart towards the end when it was decided that universities should be critical rather than relevant because it was a position that had more of a future. I may expand this to thousands of words or just continue in chat mode.

The rise of ‘Impact’ and the future of ‘research’: Research at Stake
Huw Fearnall-Williams

I started with this. Is "impact" just language?

quote

the Polish anarchist activist community exhibited highly efficient,
technology-driven, defiant community construction capabilities; and carved an admirable
digitized space indicative of innovative use, providing users unlimited potential for
integrative, interactive, interfacing among embodied and disembodied system saboteurs
around the country and around the world.

Resisting Technological Subjugation
through
ICT - Integrated Embodied Activism
By Lisiunia A. Romanienko
Wroclaw University
Wroclaw, Poland
48 508 953 123
Lroman@ix.netcom.com

This is an impact, I think.

My impression is that e-learning has not been followed through because it is seen as managerialist or something. There was a critique phase about the conditions for dialogue but not much since the technology made most things possible online.

the CMS website is just bad design, in my opinion. not much happens

but also on Facebook not much happens

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Call-for-Papers-Critical-Management-Studies-7-Digital-Culture-Stream/101078313288459?sk=wall

could there be a bit more in short form?

meanwhile the papers very interesting so more later

Johnson time travels Cross Media Live into 2011 : Printweek show daily morphs to online 24/7

http://www.printweek.com/Business/article/1078022/never-afraid-waves/

Michael Johnson is interviewed in the current Printweek as he retires from being chief executive of the BPIF - British Print Industry Federation. He sees the biggest challenge as "moving the mindset into the cross media world" .

Informa was considering launching a cross-media show this year, but have pushed it back to 2012 – wrong move. We’re already at least a year behind. Standing still is not an option.

I completely agree with this. Should there be a LIKE button somewhere? I have added a comment on the Printweek website. My suggestion is to just imagine the Cross Media Live event has already been going for a few years. Think of it as something like BETT so the Tweet feed is part of the event.

Also it could be time to dig up the relics from Digital Solutions. At the time the legitimate print industry was not really into wide format inkjet. And the digital cameras were confusing for a while. But it would be interesting to know what the BPIF made of it. even from a distance.

Printweek are launching a news email for the USA. Do they read Emily Bell? There is still a role for a show daily but meanwhile "cross-media" will turn up as a tag for Printweek online.

The Daily Beast should have more about Diana

The Guardian is a bit rude about Tina Brown and the Newsweek cover with Princess Diana.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/organgrinder/2011/jul/03/daily-beast-tina-brown-digital?INTCMP=SRCH

there is some more in the zombie Diary

http://www.zombiediary.com/uncategorized/newsweeks-tina-brown-on-princess-diana-cover-i-wanted-to-make-her-a-time/

but what strikes me is that there is still no UK follow up on the Tina Brown blog about Murdoch press and how Diana's phone calls came to be public. I don't want to get into the story as such, just the UK  lack of follow up.

We need the Daily Beast. In the UK we only have the UK media and the chances of them reporting on each other are not as high as they might be supposed.

Emily bell seems to think the Huffington Post is better placed without any print aspects. So what would she think about the Guardian and "digital first" ? not much about that directly so we have to guess.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/pda/2011/jul/04/digital-media

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/01/guardian-observer-international-editions

print closing down, industry moves digital

Phoenix Exeter loads Vimeo promotion for current Marcel Dinahet

not sure if Posterous will pick this up, may have to try the embed code.

Previously a video of the exhibit has not been encouraged as I understand it. But here we are with a pretty good guide to what is in the gallery. On Vimeo with a link and / or embed code.

Of course the actual gallery is a lot better. there will be no loss of actual visits.

For Rougemont Global Broadcasting it is much easier to link to existing online video than to try to cover everything. RGB is a grand title for YouTube/willpollard  I managed a few clips from the classics music in the Castle on Saturday but the battery did run out. We need a new phase of larger scale and more overlaps.

draft response on Recipe Exchange at Spacex Exeter

there may be a revised version later through Spacex, not sure. also the posting seems off just at the moment so this blog is a backup.

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Recipe Exchange

The idea of a recipe exchange is attractive. Sharing knowledge in a community combines obvious benefits with a secure identity. The video and photography by Helen Pritchard showed Farringdon experience with projects that followed from the tradition of recipes that were common knowledge.

But so far I have been disappointed that the online scope has been more limited than I might have expected. What is in the gallery becomes more like a treasured artefact than a video clip. I don't think they are on YouTube for example. There is an audio tape of the introduction talk but so far as I know this is not online and it may not be encouraged within the terms of the copyright for extracts to be mixed with other content or comment.

Maybe it is just a timing problem. There is also a record of the Tim Ellis talk about the Tourist but this again is not yet public. The internet has created an idea of speed as well as access that may be different to a way of working for a gallery. At least Tim Ellis made it clear he welcomed photos of his work and mixing with other content. This move towards online conventions may continue but probably with blips.

There was web access as part of the exhibit. At least there was a table with Mac computers but I found that the Recipe Exchange site was the only one I could access. Twitter and Facebook were blocked by parental guidance. Maybe others had a different experience but i am not sure that the conversation aspects of the web are fully understood. Facebook use is thought to be declining and this may be partly because of the proportion of broadcast content rather than conversation. Spacex has a Facebook page but the conversation aspect would improve if direct access was possible from the physical site.

Perhaps it is the academic aspect that is more of a problem in restricting access. Journals require that an article is unique for a specific publication. Text should not have appeared somewhere else or in a slightly different format. so it is not possible to quote or comment ahead of official publication. This seems to me to date from print culture whan a long run was the only way to publish. In journalism there is now acceptance for combining blog versions with an edited publication. Jeff Jarvis recently posted about the article on his blog buzzmachine. He responded to comments and later a print version appeared in the Guardian. this style seems well suited to the recipe Exchange themes, as they appear.

The talks around the exhibit link to related ideas such as open source software and hacker culture. Graham Dean from Highwire in Lancaster led a workshop about open source hardware. Helen Pritchard is also based at Highwire in the InfoLab 21. Imagination Lancaster links to FutureEverything in Manchester from where Julian Tate spoke about open data. I have attended the Sundown demo party in Budleigh Salterton so maybe I have too high an expectation of what to expect as online spinoff from an event. But the internet changes what happens from a village or city.

Although I have no recording a couple of remarks come to mind. Planning authorities in East Devon may consider Farringdon less of a community because there is no shop, no pub, no school. My visits so far suggest it may be part of a wider area, a triangle with Woodbury and Clyst St Mary or a corridor defined by the 52 bus. Bolton can be seen as a "wannabe city" , one of several on the outskirts of Manchester. Would this still be true for Preston or Lancaster? The circumstances of the city may apply anywhere, given the right connections. At this time of year a lot could happen in Kendal.

Recently YouTube allowed a Creative Commons option. It is widely known that YouTube can be downloaded but it has been hard to know the intention of the people who loaded it. Creative Commons makes this clear. I would welcome a few video clips from Highwire Lancaster that briefly explained what they think in a way that could be commented on. The danger I can imagine is that an academic description of "recipe exchange" type activity will become a closed conversation for academics with access to journals with limited circulation and other aspects of a discipline.

Magda Tyzlik-Carver spoke about common practice as a specific event. I think it would be more general to look at activity around Creative Commons. I know there are people on the demoscene who prefer informal understandings but the Creative Commons ideas are still a reference to explain what is happening. The common practice talk was part of the review group but the nature of collective reviews has yet to be considered, in my honest opinion.

I was not in Exeter for the David Gauntlett talk on Making is Connecting but found there is already sample content online from the book and several clips on YouTube from other events. So I do not know what was said but the web aspect is the closest to what the show might have been about.

Meanwhile at the Phoenix there is an exhibit on rivers and canals by Marcel Dinahet. There is no permission to video the video but there is a giveaway of a postcard and an invitation to photograph the water and then mix it with some other landscape. I have also chosen to post some Creative Commons water on Flickr and negotiate clear Creative Commons with Paul Gillard for some water from Cornwall. Even postcards have copyright complexities so it is best to be sorted. However, there are movments in an open direction and some indications as to where galleries may develop given current themes.

by the way, recipe exchange closes 9th July so this response may change depending on comments.

BETT tweet tries to continue some government policy on e-learning

http://www.agent4change.net/events/event/990-ridicule-for-goves-anti-mobile-phone-stance.html

Found this through a tweet from BETT.

conclusions so far

BETT exists online at any time of year

the current UK government is not only likely to close down anything like BECTA but also has no real support for e-learning

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this year Singapore was well represented. if similar in 2012 it could be less than a decade before they have the best reputation as a learning location

of course they will still come to London, they are very polite.

Open questions for students of critical management re e-learning and social media

The draft interview for Haymarket suggests to me there could be a method in blogging about issues rather than asking direct questions. At least it could help me find the answers when they crop up.

I have been trying to follow a critique take on e-learning but have lost track. There is a Critical Managament Studies conference coming up in Italy so some of these topics may be discussed. My interest started when I worked for a print company and followed ideas about learning organisations. I found then that the influence of Hugh Wilmott on ideas about quality was such that there was very little space to consider quality management as a way to think about digital technology and change in resources for learning. there has been critique of e-learning but so far as I know not much recent discussion on how dialogue might be better supported by social media.

There has been a manifesto about Network Learning and this was revised at a recent conference but I don't understand how the ideas are promoted or what the revised approach is as a public statement many people might follow.

I attended the Experimentality conference last year where there was critique of the Cloud and discussion for activists but again i don't know what is happening with the Cloud or how academic activists are communicating with a wider public.

I don't think the Cloud can be ignored. Whether or not it could have been better designed, something is going on currently. Exeter University make a positive case for not having a bookshop. This is debated in the student newspaper but it the decision is clearly an event.

There has been a CMS website following a meeting about Web 2.0 but I find it hard to use and the discussion around it has been limited.

what is the practice in relating CMS to social media? What is the current view on quality or learning in organisations?

There is a lot of content online from managers or companies that has a view on social media. It may be mostly rhetoric, but is is easy to find and understand. 
 

general purpose chat show outline during a walk with destination

previously I have thought about Lancaster campus as a direction for a conversation. start with tech vision at InfoLab 21, then critique / social context near management school, then public space near the central area with library and bookshop

however, difficult to get academics to comment on camera for Youtube within 3 minute clips

also the bookshop area has been reluctant to promote Sony reader etc. Learning Zone interesting but web access seems easier in actual Lancaster centre so public space is more in the city with consumer electronics

so there can be other walks with similar issues

towards the olympic site by canal is interesting as such but it turns out there is tech in the space between angel and Victoria Park, also critique near the Guardain

chat show content may be in various orders

canal walk to Salford media more of a spectacle than the Olympics media buildings also could be more obvious a route from the Science Park near central Manchester

walk also imagined towards Sidmouth for folk week   this is about music but also maps and social media

the original chat show was for the beer festival at the Exeter castle so aspects of this site can be extended

clips so far for Rougemeont Global Broadcasting include some from trade shows
round about now the same issues are turning up in most of the UK

there is still critique but the technology spreads in any case

Exeter campus has decided against a bookshop when the centre reopens. this is news event so e-learning etc have arrived though chat continues

script / blog to continue with actual interview clips, blog links etc, and tales of sourceSalford and source.dubious10