Scientific Leadership, still looking for clues #mtw3 learn9

I am now back in Exeter and have loaded several videos from Lancaster to YouTube. The 30 year celebration of the MA in 
Management Learning and Leadership featured a wealth of content, mostly not ion the form of an A4 handout or link to a journal. So the video is interesting as I find when editing that there is much I had forgotten. Or at least not thought about.

John Burgoyne continues to make a case about the "end of leadership". See this blog post from last year

(the second part of his talk, about a "state of salvation" will be included in a future post)

YouTube should display the earlier version based on slides and sound from two previous talks.

Towards the end it turns out that there may be a form of leadership that is "scientific" though this may have been a joke at one stage of the talk's development. As background I asked during the two days about "Management Science" and "Management Learning". These still seem to be regarded as different academic subjects. This makes not a lot of sense for practitioner managers trying to do a job. Many situations require aspects of various theories. I notice that Peter Checkland has written more about learning as he appears to be more in retirement than part of the department. Perhaps John Burgoyne will write more about systems in the next few years.

If there is Management Science then there could be Leadership Science but there is not much about it. I just thought I should check this rather general statement and Google finds this

So I will check this later without changing the drift of this blog post. My impression is still that in the UK Scientific Leadership is not much discussed.

I think there would be or is a connection with quality management and the Deming learning cycle, or Shewart cycle or PDC/SA or whatever is thought to be in ISO management standards. This is based on some sort of scientific method. Mention of "voice of the customer", "voice of the process" etc. suggests leadership as a process, not charisma. 

I have another blog about learning with ISO9000 though recently I mostly post in this one. There may be updates there as I discover more about leadership science.

The social media phase of #mtw3 continues. The first two Management Theory at Work conferences were about a decade ago. There will be a face-to-face event at the Work Foundation in September. This will be a chance to discuss more about leadership science and look at what has been found online.